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	<title>Comments on: Why bands rock harder than teams</title>
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		<title>By: La svolta mobail &#124; cedmax.net</title>
		<link>http://jarkkolaine.com/2007/06/09/why-bands-rock-harder-than-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-48499</link>
		<dc:creator>La svolta mobail &#124; cedmax.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] una (anche solo per vedere l&#8217;effetto che fa) e quindi ho deciso di mettere in piedi una rock band di [...]</description>
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		<title>By: henriette weber</title>
		<link>http://jarkkolaine.com/2007/06/09/why-bands-rock-harder-than-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-18745</link>
		<dc:creator>henriette weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jarkko - spot on =)as you know I have been using the analogy for a while as well and extended it to companies instead of teams ( even though - companies are teams).. 

anyway I think that rockbandism is going to be a big way to lead in the future - I will do anything to actually make business change - as the world is changing as well =)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;henriette webers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/toothlesstiger/~3/477364945/a-general-update-on-christmas-and-on-toothless-tiger&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a general update on christmas and on Toothless Tiger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jarkko &#8211; spot on =)as you know I have been using the analogy for a while as well and extended it to companies instead of teams ( even though &#8211; companies are teams).. </p>
<p>anyway I think that rockbandism is going to be a big way to lead in the future &#8211; I will do anything to actually make business change &#8211; as the world is changing as well =)</p>
<p><abbr><em>henriette webers last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/toothlesstiger/~3/477364945/a-general-update-on-christmas-and-on-toothless-tiger" rel="nofollow">a general update on christmas and on Toothless Tiger</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Why I rather pay for Backpack than use free alternatives - Jarkko Laine - Insanely interested</title>
		<link>http://jarkkolaine.com/2007/06/09/why-bands-rock-harder-than-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Why I rather pay for Backpack than use free alternatives - Jarkko Laine - Insanely interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about the products was that I already knew some of the ideology behind them. I even felt like I knew something about the guys behind the product. While Backpack is a great product I have no illusions about it: I could easily fill the same needs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about the products was that I already knew some of the ideology behind them. I even felt like I knew something about the guys behind the product. While Backpack is a great product I have no illusions about it: I could easily fill the same needs [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pjovknnmne</title>
		<link>http://jarkkolaine.com/2007/06/09/why-bands-rock-harder-than-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>pjovknnmne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jarkko</title>
		<link>http://jarkkolaine.com/2007/06/09/why-bands-rock-harder-than-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarkko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Roger!

You&#039;re right, the competition between team members is one of the most destructive factors against team formation. When everyone should be looking out for the common good, they are actually just looking for ways to promote themselves, get a better position and a better salary. 

Quite often team members are positioned on a different level in the company hierarchy, which puts the team members in a position where some of the members have more power than others. For example when lead programmers and lead artist are reporting to the team leader, and then some other artists and programmers to those leads, I don&#039;t think we can speak about teams anymore. This hierarchy breaks the feeling of a common goal: the ownership belongs to the leads and the rest of the staff are just working on the project. And as you said, in a situation like this it&#039;s not uncommon that the regular guys are competing for the lead positions and the leads want to be project leads, and so on...

I&#039;m not saying that this approach doesn&#039;t work. Sometimes it&#039;s good, but it definitely isn&#039;t what autonomous teams are all about. And definitely what bands are about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Roger!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, the competition between team members is one of the most destructive factors against team formation. When everyone should be looking out for the common good, they are actually just looking for ways to promote themselves, get a better position and a better salary. </p>
<p>Quite often team members are positioned on a different level in the company hierarchy, which puts the team members in a position where some of the members have more power than others. For example when lead programmers and lead artist are reporting to the team leader, and then some other artists and programmers to those leads, I don&#8217;t think we can speak about teams anymore. This hierarchy breaks the feeling of a common goal: the ownership belongs to the leads and the rest of the staff are just working on the project. And as you said, in a situation like this it&#8217;s not uncommon that the regular guys are competing for the lead positions and the leads want to be project leads, and so on&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that this approach doesn&#8217;t work. Sometimes it&#8217;s good, but it definitely isn&#8217;t what autonomous teams are all about. And definitely what bands are about.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Finn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent analogy.  In the business environment there are just too many factors to motivate individuals to not cooperate. 

In business, the individual on a team, has to look out for themselves, get promoted, push the use of their specialty.  

The deck is stacked against business &#039;teams&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent analogy.  In the business environment there are just too many factors to motivate individuals to not cooperate. </p>
<p>In business, the individual on a team, has to look out for themselves, get promoted, push the use of their specialty.  </p>
<p>The deck is stacked against business &#8216;teams&#8217;.</p>
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